Baker Shotguns Serial Numbers
The Baker Gun & Forging Co. Of Batavia, New York was founded in early 1890 and was the first American arms company to make a single barrel trap shotgun and a single barrel trap shotgun with a ventilated rib. This shotgun features double bead sights on a matte vent rib, choked full, 2 3/4 inch chamber and an extractor. The water table and bottom of the barrel lug are marked with matching serial. Apr 03, 2013 According to the article on Baker Guns in the Guns Illustrated 1997 by Hallquist & Hardin, the Paragon was added to the line in 1894, and serial numbers were from 1 to 1200. It seems each series of Baker hammerless doubles had their own serial number blocks - The Paragons and higher one block, A & B grades another block, R & S grades in.
1JanT Barker Shotgun Serial Numbers
Another 12 gauge double barrel. Another 12 gauge double barrel made by T Barker handed down by my grandpa can not find a serial number any idea where I should look and who is this gun manufacture. Submitted: 7 years ago.
You have what I call a 'Trade Brand Name' shotgun but that is not technically true. A 'Trade Brand Name' shot is one that was made by a major maker for and was sold by a wholesale sporting goods dealer, a retail chain store or an independent seller (your local hardware store) who chose the name to go on the gun. A NEW BAKER MODEl shotgun (an outside hammer type) was made by the Baker Gun And Forging Company of Syracuse New York (1887 to 1919) The BAKER NEW MODEL was made from 1887 to 1894 (I have serial number-year made tables for this gun). Crescent Fire Arms Company did not start making Baker shotguns until 1920. A serial number if there is one will be stamped on the bottom of the barrels or the flat part of the receiver which is known as the watertable.
These were well made fairly inexpensive shotguns selling for between $15 to $25 new. Current value will depend on the guns condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. A Prime condition example (rare as as,these guns were used hard and received little care or maintenance) that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might bring as much as $125 while a rusty and pitted metal, rotten or broken wood and missing parts piece of junk fit only for salvage of parts or as a whiskey still stirring stick might bring as little as $10 if it could be sold at all. Then sentimental value can't e calculated can it?
Thanks for posting your pics and congrats on owning a Baker, even it is a little ruff. If you haven't already found the site, you might check out The site includes a little history that helps explain why some people associate Baker with one city and other folks place him in another city. Baker was quite a fellow and got around quite a bit. Evidently, he often got around just a few steps in front of the law. The most notorious example is probably the night he had to climb out the window of the hotel where he was staying to avoid arrest! More well documented is the lawsuit by Stevens against Baker Gun for patent infringement. My interest stems from the fact that my late wife's uncle worked for Baker and eventually retired from it's successor.
I learned a great deal in talking with him, including the stories about clearing out all the company records and throwing them in the trash! A few years ago, circa 1995, there was a young guy who was trying to write a history of the company and its guns. I haven't heard from him in years and haven't seen the book anywhere so I guess that it has not been published.
As far as I know, there is nothing like a Baker Collector's Club, but several years ago I met some folks through the L.C. Smith Collectors Association who knew a great deal about Baker guns.
The is a collector's market for Baker guns, but it's very limited, the higher end models are the most sought after, and condition means everything. Do a search for Baker Batavia Leader and you'll find quite a range of prices. There is also someone out there selling reproductions of a Batavia Gun metal advertising sign as well as the 1915 catalog. Well, best of luck and thanks again for posting. Baker designed and was associated with several pre-1900 double gun companies prior to 1900; and although I can't remember all the company associations, after selling his interest in one of those companies, he started a new company manufacturing his 'New Baker' model hammer gun (I think W.H.
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Baker died in 1888 not too long after starting this company?). With the exception of the last post, most of the above information is horse feathers, therefore I would discount what has been posted. Fake voice 7 serial key. I suggest you visit doublegunshop.com and post your pics and questions there; and specifically to the attention of Daryl Halquist who is a long-time Baker collector and knows more about Baker shotguns that anyone alive today. Another poster there, 'Researcher', knows tons of history on W.H. Baker and his associations; and both men will gladly share the information they have gathered over many years.
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Baker Batavia Leader 20 gauge with 28” barrels bored full and modified.This rare little gun is in 98% original condition with 99% vivid case colors, 99% barrel blue and 95% stock varnish. Bakers in 20 gauge are very uncommon – almost rare. When almost perfect one has to resort to saying what isn’t perfect, so: there is a chip out of the tip of the forend, spots of corrosion on the bottom of the trigger guard, and the stock has some minor nicks and blemishes. A better example would be hard to find – a true collector quality gun. __ $1800(pics)
Baker RKEGrade (SN 200498, ca. 1925) 12 ga with 30 inch Krupp steel barrelsbored full and modified. The Baker gun is a true American sidelocklike the L. C. Smith and of similar quality and price. Graded Bakers areinfrequently seen. Both R grade and ejectors are very uncommon. This gunis in very good original condition with most of the original faded casecolors, barrel blue and stock varnish. The straight English type stockhas unusually nice figure and fine 20 lpe checkering and good stock dimensions:LOP – 14” from front trigger to rubber recoil pad; D@C - 1 7/8”; and D@H– 2 1/4”. ___ $1500. (pics)
A.H.Fox Gun Co., Philadelphia, PA
Savage Fox Model B-SE 20 ga with 26” barrels bored IC and Mod, automatic ejectors, single trigger, beavertail forend and raised ventilated rib. This gun is in 99.9% new factory condition. There are a few very very minor handling marks on the stock and a couple of places the varnish has flaked off - a condition that is a function of the kind of finish used. Production 1966 to 1988. A good collector quality gun or nice little shooter. $995 (pics)
IthacaGun Co., Ithaca, NY
Ithaca Grade 5E Single Barrel Trap Gun: This Knick SBT (SN 406925) is in excellent original condition and shows only minor use. It retains much of the original case colors. The engraving and 2 gold inlays are as sharp as the day they were cut. Stock and barrel finish are 98% or better. The 32” ventilated rib barrel is full choke. The Monte Carlo stock (14X1¼ X1¼ X1½) has a factory option adjustable Morgan pad. Last MSRP - $7,500___ $3995 (pics)
New Ithaca Double(NID) Grade FE 12 ga with excellent 30 inch fluid steel barrels. 98%original finish including case colors. Stock has 14 1/4' pull over originalHawkins pad which is still in good shape. SN 4536XX. Early variation withcocking indicators, Deely & Edge forend release and starburst engravingon side and bottom of action. A collector quality gun. ____ $1600 (pics)
Flues Model SpecialField Grade 12 ga with excellent 28 inch 'Smokeless Powder Steel' barrels.Overall very clean and in very good condition: about 30% case colors underheavy patina; stock is excellent with original Ithaca butt plate, 14 ¼”LOP, 2” D@C and 3” D@H; 98% original barrels blue. (SN 351551) ___ $500(pics)
LefeverArms Co., Syracuse, NY
(9074o) Ggrade. 12 ga. (SN 40240) with 30' Damascus bbls choked full and fullwith almost good bores - roughness will clean up - no dents. Gun has beencleaned up and is VG working order. Very good original wood with excellentmonogram butt plate and grip cap has been beautifull refinished and checkeringrecut. No rust or pitting. Good demensions - LOP=14', D@C=1 1/2',D@H=2 3/4'. Even brown barrel pattern. A good solid all original gun . Would restore very nicely. __ $900 (pics)
Parker Shotguns
Parker Single Barrel Trap Gun SB Grade.12 ga with rare 34” barrel. “B” grade single barrel Parkers are very rare. And this one is virtually new with 98% or better original finish:98% case color, 100% wood finish, 100% barrel blue, perfect screws, 99% case color, wood shiny near perfect, vent rib w twin ivory sights - the very best collector quality. Parkers are not noted for well figured stocks but this one is magnificent - dimensions: 14¾ x 1 3/8 x 1½. The only negatives that I can find are: 1” pachmayr pad, forend wood is not as extraordinary as the butt stock, and the case color is slightly faded. It is impossible to find these guns in this sharp and crisp condition. __ $11,500. (pics)
Parker VH Grade 12 gauge restored as new by Oscar Gaddy. This 1 ½ frame gun weighs 6 lbs 14 oz and has 28” Vulcan fluid steel barrels bored .012 (IC) right and .016 (Lt. Mod) left – a good combination for sporting clays or field.Bores are perfect. It is mechanically and cosmetically excellent with very original looking case colors – as only Oscar could do – and satin blue barrels that are better than factory new. The only flaw is a small scratch on the left side of the action. Excellently refinished stock and pointed up checkering. Dimensions are: LOP to original Hawkins pad is 14”, D@C is 1 ½” and D@H is 2 ½”. ____ $3250 (pics)
Remington Arms Co., Ilion, NYRemington Model 1900 K Grade 12 ga with 29” fluid steel barrels bored modified and improved cylinder – mint bores. I am convinced these are original 29” barrels. Over all there is about 95% original finish but shows a few handling marks and toning. Slightly faded case colors are about 92% but most remain bright and vivid. Barrel blue remains about 98% with some toning of color. Stock varnish is also 98% with no chips, dents or abrasions. The monogram buttplate is near perfect. About as good as you will ever find in a 110 year gun - absolutely original in every respect. Weight = 7lbs 2 oz. Stock dimensions: 13 ¾”,X 2”X3”. (SN 316505) A true collector quality gun. __ $1600. (pics)
Miscellaneous Makes & Models
Iver Johnson Super Trap.12 ga with 32” vent rib barrels bored full and improved modified. This gun retains 95+% original finish. Action case colors are bright and vivid on each side but the bottom of the action shows some loss but 92% remain over all.100% barrel blue. Trigger guard is drifting brown.Stock and beavertail forend have no cracks, gauges or scratches and sport near 100% original varnish which is crazed due to age. Grip cap is perfect and butt pad is decomposing. Stock dimensions: 14½ x 23/8 x 13/8. Gun has excellent bores and operates perfectly including ejectors.A collector quality American double barrel trap gun. ___ $1700, (Pics)
Iver Johnson Skeeter 16 gauge. with Selective Automatic Ejectors and beavertail forend. Barrels are 28 inch bored Skeet 1 & 2. Original in every respect and functions perfectly. Action retains 98% deep blue; stock has 92% original varnish (crazed); but the barrels need to be reblued. Bores are excellent. Iver Johnson Skeeters in 16 gauge are rare. This would be a good shooter and addition to your collection. __ $2200. (pics)
N R Davis AJAXBoxlock 16 ga with 26” barrels bored full and modified. 95% originalcondition – case colors, blue and varnish. Serial number E1754 (mfg. ca. 1919-1929) Marked “N.R. Davis & Sons/AJAX/Davis-WarnerArms Corp/Norwich, Conn. USA” in 4 lines on left side. Casehardened action.Single bolt through rib extension. Cocks via dog in barrel lump. Blued 16ga 26”fluid steel monoblock barrels are perfect in and out. Coil spring plungerforend latch. Forend, barrels and action marked with serial number – no patentor date. Plain American walnut round knob pistol grip stock varnished with nocheckering. Weight: 6 lbs 11 oz. Dimensions: LOP = 14” over pad; D@C=1 5/8”;D@H = 2 3/4”. This is the best condition Davis I have seen in 40 yearscollecting American double barreled guns. __ $700 (pics)
Winchester Model 12 12 gawith 26” nickel steel barrel (cut down from 32”) and poly choke. Serial no. 411509 was made in 1925. This gun retains about 70% original finish and is a sound shooter. The gun is tight and operates flawlessly. The butt stock has been nicely refinished, is original length with 14 ¼” LOP, and Winchester butt plate. The barrels have no dents and excellent bores. I shot my first double at quail with this in 1950. It has also taken several deer with slugs or buck shot. -- $250 (pics)
Winchester Model 1230” full choke barrel (used 80%). If you want it also add a $100. Separately it is $150.
Baker Shotguns Serial Numbers 222
Notes: All guns,unless stated otherwise:Baker Shotguns Serial Numbers Lookup
1.Have fluid steel barrels
2.Require dealer FFL unless noted as being antiques made 1898 or earlier.
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8/26/2016